7-23-22: The Brain Guys Roger Anunsen and Michael Patterson – Brain Experts!
We ZOOMED in The Brain 
Guys from California and Oregon… And posed this question to them … What is Burn 
Out? We all experienced it at some points in our lives and sometimes more then once … where does it come from and how can we combat or challenge it to teach us something vitally good as our love for Pie??!?!!! It definitely is a part of life and can teach as many lessons if our perspective is right on!!
Guys Roger Anunsen and Michael Patterson does an excellent and Fantastic job in helping us understand Burn Out and the expert tools we have right inside our own brains to make delicious fun-filled pie out of Burn instead of just the empty Pie shell!
along with our 22,000K+ Listenership for the delicious brain worthy OSJ Radio Hour! You can also listen 
in on our 16 popular podcast platforms including Goggle, Spotify, Apple 
& i-Pod to just name a few!!
Roger Anunsen,Brain 🧠 Expert! Roger Anunsen is an award-winning educator, keynote speaker, cognitive intervention program consultant and brain health coach based in Oregon. Roger is the president of MINDRAMP and introduced the MINDRAMP Method© at the University of Oxford. He teaches college courses including The Aging Mind & an important course specifically redesigned for this challenging time Virtual Cognitive Activity Design.Michael and Roger have both had TED Talks and have spoken at the Smithsonian Institution on brain science and aging. They promote the ideas of Refiring and Not Retiring! Live Well and Live Long!
Michael Patterson, Brain 🧠 Expert! Michael C. Patterson is a scholar, educator and speaker who develops programs to promote successful aging, brain health, creativity and quality-of-life. Michael ran the award-winning Staying Sharp program at AARP and is founder and CEO of MINDRAMP Consulting. Michael is a certified brain health coach. He produces and hosts the MINDRAMP Podcast that provides practical advice on how to achieve Qualongevity.
